Dual UX Research: How to get greater insights from natural conversations.

Chris Spalton
UX Planet
Published in
6 min readJan 22, 2018

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All UXers know the importance of building a rapport with your research participants. Whilst yes, you’re there to observe, document and analyse in a ‘scientific’ setting, if your participants don’t feel comfortable, they won’t speak or act as freely, or as naturally, as required for you to gain the insights you’re looking for.

We welcome them warmly, offer them a drink, ask them how their day has been, get them to tell us a bit about their hobbies and interests. We do all these things so that when we sit down to the task or testing at hand they feel as comfortable as possible. It’s second nature to us, completely natural, we do it all the time.

But to the participant this process isn’t second nature in the slightest…you’re in a strange building, locked in a room with a stranger, looking at a website, app or product you’ve never seen before AND being asked questions about how a mortgage application makes you FEEL. What? This isn’t natural at all. Natural would be relaxing at home after work, browsing your phone, sitting on the couch with some reality show on the TV. You’d be talking to your partner about the options and products you’re looking at, bouncing ideas off each other, asking questions and clarifying information as best as you can, working together to identify the best options for your mortgage, your savings, or your insurance.

We can’t set up a couch or TV in our research labs, (anyway, I certainly couldn’t work with horrible celebrity-driven TV shows on in the background!) so it will never be truly realistic. HOWEVER, what we can do is encourage the natural conversations, queries and teamwork that is often involved in making financial decisions.

In my UX career to date I’ve held a bunch of Focus Groups, I’ve conducted immeasurable amounts of one-on-one in depth interviews. Nonetheless, I’d never conducted research with a couple, in the room together, making decisions as a team like they would in real life, until last week. SPOILER ALERT: it was amazing.

The research we were conducting was to explore the understanding and appeal of two new innovative mortgage products that might be released in the future. With a single participant you have to run through both products, and observe and interview them around their thoughts and feelings about what they’re reading.

Sometimes we ask them: “If you had to explain this in your own words to your wife/husband, how would you do that?”. They then tell you what they think and understood about the product, quite often mimicking the type of language they have just seen on screen. This can be really useful — it ensures we can gauge how much they’ve absorbed, the areas that confuse them, or perhaps what/how to refine. There’s a couple of fundamental flaws with this approach though:

a)- They actually WOULDN’T explain it in those terms to their partner. Financial language is not natural language, most people don’t use the kind of terms involved on a day-to-day basis.

b)- Surprise! You’re not their partner! As mentioned above, you’re a stranger — in a strange place, and in a strange setting. They’re not going to talk completely normally to you. They’re going to imagine they’re in an exam and try and recite what they’ve read to the best of their ability and hope you mark them ‘correctly’.

Both of these issues can bias the insight you’re gathering, and therefore have a knock-on impact to the analysis and recommendations you can provide to the client. It’s unavoidable, and something we have to acknowledge, potentially even discount completely, when formulating our deliverables.

So, how does interviewing a couple together make a difference, and how do you go about it?

In my example above:

I greeted them warmly, offered them a drink, asked how their days had been (same as always!) and brought them both into the research lab together.

I asked them all the initial introduction or ‘context of use’ questions as a pair, finding out about their relationship, their situation with buying a house, their finances etc. I ensured that both had an opportunity to speak as individuals as well as together. This gave me a greater understanding of some of the dynamics at play (her parents had given them a deposit, they both worked for his family’s firm, etc.), and a better appreciation of what their situation and their priorities were as a team, not as individuals.

I then asked the husband to leave the room and have a coffee. I placed the wife in the situation that a friend had reccomended she check out only one of the two products we were testing, and asked her to explore the prototype to discover more about it. I captured the usual spontaneous thoughts and feelings and usability feedback as she moved through.

After around 15–20 mins of exploring, discovering and learning more about the product, I invited the husband back in. I asked her to explain the product to him, and how/if it would be a good option for them.

The lady had been really positive about the product she’d seen, so pitched it to her husband, listing all the benefits it offered. These included how the product could work given their situation, how they could discuss it with their respective parents — and, most importantly, how it meant they’d be able to borrow more money and move into a house with a garden (a prospect that was out of their reach at the moment).

In return, the husband raised questions and concerns — would it work in this scenario? What impact would it have? He remembered his father had just retired — would that impact the deal they could get? Would their needs be putting their parents at risk in anyway?

It was a back and forth between long-term partners, the wife would clarify parts where she was certain about the details, realise that she wasn’t so sure about certain aspects of it when particular questions were raised — “Ah yes, we’ll need to look into that in more detail, and we’d have to make it clear to mum that she’d need to do this…” Together they’d walk through how it might work given scenario X vs scenario Y. It was real, and it was human.

It was like they’d forgotten I was in the room, and what I was observing was a pure, natural and honest conversation between two people with an established relationship and clear understanding of each others situation, goals and desires — something that would never truly happen in a one-on-one scenario.

The insights that this single session provided me with were more valuable than the other 5 one-on-one sessions I’d held that day combined. You can’t recreate a relationship in the hour you spend with a single participant; they had years of a shared life together that had led them to this point, and here they were discussing them in front of me.

After they discussed the first product, I then sent the wife out and ran through the same process with the husband. Finally, I gathered them both in for some final summary questions and to discuss which of the products they’d looked at would suit them both best.

It was one of the most interesting and useful research sessions I’ve conducted in a long time, and I really feel that by embracing this technique I gained far more than if I had interviewed them both individually.

It may sound complicated to conduct a session like this with people coming in and out but it really isn’t — you do need slightly more time than the standard hour (an extra 15 -20 mins should be fine) and of course you need an extra chair, but that’s it! Due to the fact that only one person is using the prototype at a time, there’s no need to change the tech setup you have, but you will need to ensure that at least one camera/mic can capture the wider group conversation during those sections of the interview.

I highly recommend trying out this ‘dual research’ technique, and it would be great to hear if you have any tips to share about interesting and useful ways to conduct user testing — get in touch if so!

I’m Chris Spalton, senior UX consultant at Foolproof, Europe’s largest experience design agency with offices in Norwich, London and Singapore.

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